. not popular with women , but popular with men .
Matsuura: The above story reminds me of another episode. One time, I was in a used camera shop in New York City, and a short, thin man in front of me was having a dispute with the clerk. I looked closely and saw that he was Allen Ginsberg.
Kaneko: Eek~! This is also amazing.
Matsuura: . He was also wearing a regular-collar Oxford shirt. The pants were L.L. Bean white denim, and he was wearing a large size with a belt. They looked like they had never been washed at all, but they looked cool. . He was fat to begin with, but he lost weight and his shirts and denim got too big. He has about 30 pens in the breast pocket of his shirt. Isn't that amazing? . the pockets were about to fall down.
Normally I wouldn't put that much in it, but for him it was necessary. The shirt was completely turned into a pencil case. Influenced by this, I started carrying a pen in my shirt the next day (laughs). In the end, I think it is not what you wear, but how you wear it and how you use it that is more important.
Matsuura-san's pants are also white , and he wears them in a large size.
Matsuura: This is a "Westerner" from the 60's by "Lee" , which I bought at a thrift store over 30 years ago. As I'm sure you know, Mr. Kaneko, isn't it more difficult to wear "Lee" pants in the right size than "501®" pants? . So the larger size is better. . That way, they look more tool-like, don't they?
Kaneko: . I totally agree. At the old cowboy conventions, clowns would appear with advertisements, and they would wear big Wrangler denim. They are completely designed for clowns, so they don't need any functions, and one of the hip pockets is a dummy. We have also had Lee make clown pants for "Reshop" based on this idea. Also, Lee's hip pockets are separated from each other.
Matsuura: Yes, this is the point: it is normal up to about 32 or 33 inches, but it is very far away from about 34 inches. With this much distance apart, the pockets come to the side when you sit down. . what can I say, I kind of like the awkwardness of it.
Kaneko: I understand . It's very nice.
Matsuura: . By having the pockets on the side, it is easy to take out a handkerchief, etc. while sitting down. This is a privilege when wearing oversized "Lee" pants (laughs).
Kaneko: They say that the dimensions of the pockets are determined by the number of inches from the side. So it seems that both 34" and 40" are attached to the same place, and the larger they get, the wider they get.
Matsuura: . this is also functionality. So "Westerners" are not popular with women either (laughs). . but it is popular with men. . as I get older, I gradually become less and less popular. I think I've gotten over that to a large extent.
Which item is the belt?
Matsuura: This is from Hermes, and I bought it when I first went to Paris, so it was an item I bought at the end of my twenties.
Kaneko: I see you have a belt like this.
Matsuura: . This is another item that I have been wearing for a long time. Since the brand originally made harnesses, the leather and metal fittings are good. I like leather and metal fittings, and I also like to wear things from places with a horse culture, such as England. I feel like it's the antithesis of wearing expensive brand-name items with workwear-like pants like Westerner on a daily basis. Hermes is a great brand that everyone knows, but it was originally a harness maker. I thought it would be nice to use it as a tool. . I also have an ulterior motive of wanting to be a little more popular (laughs).
Kaneko: So that's part of the feeling (laughs).
Matsuura: I ask for forgiveness for this part (laughs). (Laughs.) That is how I keep myself in balance.
Your shoes are also very distinctive.
Matsuura: There is a city called Sacramento, about 3 hours drive from San Francisco, and these shoes are made in the suburbs of Sacramento. These shoes are made in the suburbs of Sacramento. They are shoes for walking, and they are completely custom-made based on a mold of your feet. I have been wearing these shoes for more than 20 years. Whether the design is good or bad, they are an item that I am very attached to because they were made by hand over a long period of time.
Kaneko: I see that the soles are made by Birkenstock.
Matsuura: Yes, they are. They are very comfortable. . because they are shaped like my feet. . I take care of these too, replacing the soles and so on, and I wear them all the time.
I am very attached to the items I am wearing today, including the stories of where and why I bought them. I think that kind of thing is good.
