New Year, Yuta Kaji's Movie Fortune Telling - The Case of Band K

Kaji: Sorry , I know it's sudden. I look forward to working with you today!

All: Best regards!

Kaji: . this is the first content of the new year, which is great. So many people have been nominated as potential guests, and it will also be a prediction of HOUYHNHNM's for the year 2024. In the case of the Nihon Keizai Shimbun, the president of some company or the chairman of the Keidanren (Japan Business Federation) would come. So, after a lot of rounds, when I had dinner with Shunsaku, the stylist, a month ago, I asked him what he was up to, and he mentioned your names, and he seemed to like you very much. At the meeting this time, among the various candidates, your name popped up, and all the staff members knew you. I felt it was great that people in this line of work happened to have heard of it and knew about it, even though they didn't know much about it! I felt it was great that they knew about it, even though I didn't really understand it, and that's why I made the offer this time. Happy New Year!

All: Happy New Year!

Kaji: Well, did you think it was about time? Did you have a feeling that it might be coming?

Ohno: I didn't think they would be as big as we were (laughs). I was surprised.

Kaji:I am still a stylist, but I also like movies, so last year I started a film festival where I select about 3 movies and show them all night long. I thought it would be fun to do a fortune-telling session where I would choose the movies for the guests. I don't really know much about fortune-telling, but I can interpret it as a kind of movie sommelier. I think you know the real movie fortune-telling when you see the person in front of you, even if he/she doesn't say anything. But it's not like that. I'm going to tell each of you about the movie...Oh, you watch movies, don't you? Who doesn't watch movies?

Fujii:I don't watch that much.

Hori:I don't watch much.

Kaji:Okeydokey . That's all well and good, and I'll tell you what role my film recommendations play. I'll also decide at the end of the day whether I'm going to slap you on the ass or side with you, and I'll decide the efficacy of each one on my own. In that sense, it's more like counseling, or I listen to what you have to say and present a film, although it's not fortune-telling at all. It is not fortune-telling at all, but I thought it would be more catchy if I called it "movie fortune-telling. That is what I will be doing today. How was 2023? (Laughs)

Ohno:I am currently in graduate school and just finished writing my thesis. I'm about to submit it.

Kaji:I still didn't get it , it's not just about the band.

Ohno:. We are all classmates at Tokyo University of the Arts. So, Fujii and I were in graduate school for one year longer and graduated this year. K and H graduated last year. So Fujii-kun and I are busy creating works and writing theses for graduation, while at the same time playing in the band.

Kaji:If we are classmates, does that mean we entered school together . But there was a difference in graduation?

All:Yes, that's right (laughs).

Ohno:So we all went together for 6 years, and the two of us (Ohno and Fujii) were there for one year longer.

Kaji:What grade are you going to be, 7th grade?

Fujii:7th grade.

Kaji:You mean it's been 8 years?

Fujii:7 years.

Kaji:How old are they now?

Ohno:24 , and 25 generations.

Kuwabara:I'm in the same generation , 25.

Fujii:Me too 24.

Hori:I turned 27 the day before yesterday.

Kaji:Congratulations, Kuwabara-kun and Hori-kun! I see that Kuwabara-kun and Hori-kun have already graduated.

Kaji:On the other hand, some of them have found jobs, and others are probably working part-time or something, but the band is their main activity, isn't it?

Fujii:Yes, we do spend a lot of time on it , don't we?

Hori:I also paint at the same time. I am in the oil painting department. Ono is in the piano department, F is in the composition department, and Kuwabara is in the sound and composition department.

Kaji:How can you be friends with people from different departments?

Fujii:These three (Kuwabara, Fujii and Hori) live in the dormitory of the University of the Arts, and gradually began to gather in Hori's room. They would improvise over drinks. At first, we stayed at home to create music, but when we decided to play as a band, we invited Ohno to join us.

Kaji:How many years has it been in this form?

Ohno:It's been 5 years since we became a group of 4. 3 or 4 years since we became a group of 4. . . There was a time when I was kind of a member or not, until about halfway through. . I had known each of them for a long time, although we lived in different places. I joined the group once as a kind of collaboration, and after about a year blank, I joined Corona Disaster as a member just before the summer of 2020, I think.

Kaji:. somewhat roughly speaking, that's about it. How did each of you do in 2023?

Fujii:Then, well, from the moat.

All:(Laughter).

Hori:I graduated in April of 2023, so my graduation project was probably the most significant. I usually paint, but at that time, I made my first installation work on the theme of music, painting, and improvisation, and that was how the year 2023 began. In parallel with that, I was working on the band's album and continuing to exhibit my paintings...

Kaji:It feels like it happened so fast.

Kaji:Fujii is next.

Fujii:I didn't think much about it... (laughs). As far as I can remember, the most important thing was the production of the album: we did some recording in December 2022, and after a short break, we started recording again in May and continued until August.

Ohno:. I've used this place (Amuse Studio) about four times.

Fujii:Yes, I am doing the mixing and mastering for this album, and I will be working on that in September, October, and November, and then I will work on my thesis for graduation and compose music. I submitted it a week ago.

Kaji:Fujii, what department are you in?

Fujii:Composition Department.

Kaji:. it would be hilarious if they put out a song by the band and didn't graduate.

All:(Laughter).

Fujii:The band's music?

Kaji:Yes, yes, yes. Because this one is different from the other, right? F's individual name production and the collective creativity of the band.

Fujii:Ah, but it was my goal this time not to separate that part, and in a way I put out the band's music, or I wrote something like a song for our band and our rock band, and it's about 17 minutes long, but if it falls short....

Kaji:You don't know the outcome yet, but in that sense, it contains the nuances of this band, but not entirely different?

Fujii:. not entirely different, but like pioneering an experimental spirit.

Kaji:There's this and there's that, and they work for each other, don't they? But, you know, it would have been interesting to have a whole song from this band and have it... fall out.

All:(Laughter).

Kaji:I wanted to see an experiment that might not be a commercial failure, even though it was rejected by the university , but I don't know where the goal of this band is.

Kuwabara:Like Hori, I am submitting a work for graduate school graduation in January 2023, and am making video and performance works. I have been working as an assistant at Tokyo University of the Arts since April this year. Until now, I had no place to practice drumming, but I was able to solve this problem to some extent by working at the university. Also, I started my own company in June. I am currently the president of the company...

Kaji:It's ok to be president while doing staff, it's more like a side job.

Kuwabara:It was totally OK, and I cultivated something like my base, or something like that.

Kaji:It's starting to sound like a New Year's article, the first article-like president in the media on January 1. No, thank you for coming, Mr. President.

All:(Laughter).

Kaji:It's like the face of the year, right? I didn't realize the band had a president. I didn't know they had a president.

Ohno:I didn't know that much either.

Fujii:I forgot (laughs).

Kaji:Where's Ohno-kun?

Ohno:When Kuwabara-kun became president, I wanted to become president too. I suddenly sent him a line asking him what I should do to become a president, and he sent me a set of documents, but they were so difficult that I gave up after the first line, and I am currently in a state of undecided action. Graduation has not been decided yet, I was almost crushed by anxiety, and there were times when I was angry with the world for some reason, so it was a bit of a strange year, but I had a lot of fun with the production.

Kaji:By the way, I'm also the president, so in that sense, this is a conversation with the president. I guess it's about your 2023, your job, what you want to do, and so on. It's not about girlfriends or anything like that.

All:(Laughter).

Kaji:I don't remember if I was 23 or what it was like back then, but there were times when I got to go out to dinner with really cute girls , you know? I don't remember how it was when I was 23, but there were cases like, "I went out with a cute girl," or "I went out with a cute girl. I think I had more fun that way, but I can't really say that right now. Surprisingly, everyone is focused on what they want to do.

Kuwabara:There are many things I would like to do.

Kaji:How old are they all?

Ohno:I am 24 years old.

Kuwabara:I'm 25.

Fujii:I am 24 years old.

Hori:27 .

Kaji:Do all of you watch movies? You two (Fujii and Hori) don't watch movies.

Ohno:I watch a lot of movies.

Kuwabara:. as much as humanly possible.

Fujii:. I watch movies that are recommended to me, and I like some of them , but not on a daily basis.

Hori:I also watch 2 movies a year . I have one favorite movie.

Ohno:When I was in high school or just starting college, I used to like to watch a movie every three days or so, but since I started this band, I watch less and less. When I heard about this opportunity, I thought I would like to return to watching movies.

Kaji:I'm very cautious. Earlier, Fujii-kun, you said that you were alone for the final work on the album, but you said that there would be some time for the four of us to work on it together. Isn't it possible to finish with that and then go see a movie together?

All:I don't think so.

Kaji:I still have it, but didn't I have it when I was in high school? Like, "Let's go to the movies. The feeling you had when you were a kid. Like a groove, like "let's go to an all-night movie" .

Ohno:No, I mean, the four of us have almost never gone out to play together.

Fujii:Ohno often says so, but it's not true (laughs).

Ohno:Maybe you don't think I'm playing. There's a gap in perception. . maybe "misperception" was one of the themes of the year.

Kaji:That's fine. . since we are all different, there is no chance for the four of us to watch a movie together. Maybe this will be a good opportunity for the four of us to watch a movie together next year, and we can sort it out. I don't know, but for the original purpose, I thought it would be best to choose one for each of us, but if this trend continues, we might as well all watch this together. That might create something. By the way, do you have a particular piece of work that you would like to showcase? What are your influences?

Ohno:Well, that's something .

All:(Laughter).

Fujii:Oh no (laughs). I'm here.

Ohno:Most movies are about 2 hours long and have a storyline, so I forget what they are about. When I used to watch a lot of movies, I could tell people when they asked me about them, but gradually I couldn't say that anymore. But when I was in high school, I liked movies like Jim Jarmusch's "Dead Man.

Kaji:What's "Dead Man" , the one where he commits a crime?

Ohno:No, like, Johnny Depp is wanted and wandering in the woods.

Kaji:That's the one, isn't it, the one where you commit a crime?

Ohno:. suddenly banged up in a coffee shop.

Kaji:. soundtrack, Neil Young, right?

(clean buzzing)

Fujii:It's definitely me.

Ohno:Alarm.

All:(Laughter).

Kaji:Was that "Dead Man Walking"?

Ohno:No, the title of the film is "Dead Man" in Japanese. I'm from the countryside, so I was always fascinated by that kind of thing...

Kaji:Where are you from?

Ohno:Hiroshima .

Kaji:Then I'll mention where I'm from and the movie! . Then maybe we can make a connection.

Ohno:I also watched "Battles Without Honor and Humanity" because it was set in Hiroshima. From there, I watched yakuza films, and eventually I came to the films of Takeshi Kitano, and for a while I watched a lot of them.

Kaji:So what's the movie at this point? I ask, "Dead Man"?

Ohno:Yes, I was quite impressed with the music as well, and the soundtrack was very strong.

Kaji:It's a dark sound, after all , and it's Neil Young.

Ohno:Yes, like, dédédéné.... . maybe that's where I started paying attention to things like the relationship between movies and music.

Kaji:Inevitably, you're not conscious of it, but you're aware of it. That's good.

Kuwabara:I'm from Miyazaki, Japan...

Kaji:Oh, that's properly great, I forgot about that (laughs).

Kuwabara:In Miyazaki itself, there are not many movie theaters, so there is a large Aeon theater, a mini-theater that only holds about 20 people, and one other theater each. When I was in high school in my hometown, the movie I remember most was "Kimi no na wa" (Your Name), which made me cry.

Kaji:The cartoon one. How old was that one?

Kuwabara:I was about 15 or 16 years old and a pure country girl, so I cried. But when I came to Tokyo, I was so bombarded with information that I couldn't cry much when I saw the film again. I also remember "The Birds" and "Psycho" by Hitchcock, and I liked "The Usual Suspects" and other films of the royal road. Recently, I saw "African Kung Fu Nazis.

Kaji:What is that? What the hell is that title?

Kuwabara:The film is about Hideki Tojo and the Nazis who come back to fight in the city of Ghana. The film is a co-production between Ghana, Germany, and Japan, and the wartime dictators come out and battle each other with kung fu.

Kaji:Is that translated?

Kuwabara:It will be screened in Japan in 2021, and I recently found out about it by watching the trailer on YouTube, but I really didn't understand what it meant. I watched it on a streaming service. The thumbnail was too interesting, so please watch the trailer alone.

Kaji:On the contrary, you are now divining me (laughs).

Kuwabara:." "This Nazi guy is attacking us," he said, in his Kansai dialect for some reason.

Kaji:Translated by Natsuko Toda?

Kuwabara:I think not.

Kaji:What about Fujii, then?

Fujii:I am from Shimane, Japan, and although I never got into movies, I really liked cars and watched a lot of B-class car movies, such as "Operation Mini-Mini. My current favorite is Harmony Korine's "Gummo.

Hori:We watched that together, didn't we?

Ohno:We all watch this one, don't we? Recommended to me, too .

Kaji:. this is surprisingly rare, but it is a commonality. Who is the source for "Gammo?"

Fujii:Yes, it is.

Ohno:Fujii recommended it to me. I happened to see the DVD when I went to a friend's house. Last year.

Kaji:. I think we all had a little bit of a feeling for it. What about you, H-kun?

Hori:I am from Sapporo . Gummo" was one of the most shocking movies I ever saw, but my all-time favorite movie is "Blade Runner. I like the most famous of the old movies, but my interest is more in the human race, and although the number of movies I have seen is small, it is mostly science fiction.

Kaji:Interesting that you arrive at "What is a human being?" not with a heartwarming one, but with a science fiction one. . It's also up to each person's interpretation.

Hori:I think "Ghost in the Shell" is also a story about what it means to be human, and "2001: A Space Odyssey" is one of my favorites among the few I have seen.

Kaji:. I've already seen three proper ones, so I don't need to see the rest. In the case of clothes, you already have the kind of clothes that are OK if you wear them, so the best part of a movie is how you experience them at that time. Depending on your age, what you think of it at 20, 25, and 30 will also differ.

Kaji:I think that each of us ultimately sends out music, but there are cases where film doesn't work, right? I am a stylist, for example, and my collections in Paris are one of them, and movies that I have watched without much care may have a slight influence on my work. So I was wondering what role film plays in each of these things.

Ohno:Music videos, for example, I might have been aware of the movie. But in my case, I watched a lot of movies for a while. At that time (when I was preparing for the entrance examinations), I was practicing the piano in a confined space, so movies were very realistic for me. After I moved to Tokyo, my surroundings changed, and I thought that if I could develop my love life in a movie-like way, it would work out well for me.

All:(Laughter).

Ohno:. I was studying how a girl would look when I said these lines. I had a feeling in my mind that if I said this, it would go well, because I had watched too many movies. I had never been in a relationship until my freshman year of college, and that was a complete failure. I used to take her out on movie dates often, and I would ask her if she wanted to go out for dinner after the movie ended around 7:00 p.m. , so that I could create a flow of conversation. I was able to create a flow of "let's go out for dinner after the movie finishes at around 7:00 p.m." and so on.

Kaji:The movie is the axis.

Ohno:I failed in all of them, and in the end, I could not study the real world through movies, and there were times when I could not distinguish between real life and the real world. But since I came to Tokyo and started living alone, I have been able to live more fully in the real world. . What am I talking about?

Kaji:I'm talking about the movie and how it works, but sorry, it's not the movie's fault if it didn't work out with the movie , or the date.

Ohno:I see.

Kaji:Yeah, it's the face, isn't it?

All:(Laughter).

Kaji:Not because of the movie , but the face.

Ohno:It's not the movie, it's the face . It's the face, isn't it?

Kaji:Yes, the face. I thought it would be good if I could understand that when I came to Tokyo.

Ohno:I understand what you mean...that's the premise.

Kaji:It's a face after all!

Fujii:(Ohno) is very hurt... (laughs).

Ohno:No, no.

Kaji:Don't worry, I know what I'm talking about , too. After all, it's all about the face.

Ohno:I'm talking about how that one is for creation.

Kaji:Oh yeah , sorry.

Ohno:So, in short, it was not a sense of input and output, but rather a sense of output and input.

Kaji:A match, a match.

Ohno:It wasn't like I studied and wrote notes and then demonstrated it, but I started doing it on my own and then turned it around.

Kaji:Leave your books behind and go to town, , exactly.

All:(Laughter).

Kaji:I see, I see, I see, I see. That's great, you've reached it .

Kuwabara:It's amazing that you're doing that on the ground.

Kaji:In terms of the flow of things, then I'd like to say let's all go to the movies together already, the five of us. In terms of today's movie horoscope, I wanted to say, let's go see a movie instead of talking here. . I don't see why not, either. . So, I guess it's possible that the movie is something that is tied to our actions.

Ohno:. talking about the theme, it is easy to be influenced by the works. I was influenced by the ending songs, and I would listen to records of them all. I was moved by the movie as a whole, and the ending really caught me off guard.

Ohno:I remember that this movie played this music, or Dolan's "Matthias & Maxim" also played Pet Shop Boys, and those songs and so on will stay with me.

Kaji:Then you want to choose a movie with somewhat good action, right? You don't want to watch a useless movie, right?

Ohno:No, no, no, no, no, no . . but I do want to get to the "reverse" as well... I don't know if it's reverse, horizontal or vertical anymore.

Kaji:. you mean you want to eat something like a flying kick from the side, too.

Ohno:Yes, it is.

All:(Laughter).

Kaji:Ok. Then, do you have any Kuwabara-kun? How does film work?

Kuwabara:I often watch movies as an experience of watching beautiful images, or in a poetic way, and scenes from various movies without any context often pop into my head, and when I connect them on my own, words and ideas that come out of them are incorporated into my own creative works, It is like a thin layer that permeates my daily life.

Kaji:. that fundamentally, the content itself didn't give me any vague motivation or anything like that.

Kuwabara:There is very little of it. I guess that's what I like about Hitchcock.

Kaji:Ok, ok, where's Fujii?

Fujii:In terms of input and output, there is no such thing as input in the process of creating a song. If I had to say so, I would say that I listen to my own voice at that moment and input what I have output, as Ohno mentioned earlier. I am more in touch with music than with film, but I don't feel like I am trying to input something.

Kaji:. I guess it means that I don't want to watch a movie for some kind of compensation. Many people often want to see a movie that makes them cry, or a movie that makes them happy. You have a purpose, and you use movies as a means to achieve that purpose.

Fujii:That is not the case at all.

Kaji:It's interesting that they are all different. How about you, Hori?

Hori:...I used to think of painting and music as nothing more than hobbies. I had a longing for more technology and a science fiction worldview, and I started researching new concepts that did not exist in this world, such as AI, which is now mainstream, and how to create AI when it was first developed. I started researching how AI could be created when it was first developed, and I taught myself how to program for it, starting in junior high school.

All:(Laughter).

Ohno:Even now?

Hori:I'm sane now.

Kaji:I see, there's a story that you all are new to.

Hori:The world depicted in "Ghost in the Shell" and "Blade Runner" is a world where the boundary between man and machine has disappeared, and I was even thinking about the possibility of creating a human being with my own hands.

Kaji:. then it's not a good time for a movie (laughs).

Hori:I was really into it, and the movies I mentioned earlier encouraged me to get into it. I was moved by the thought that this could really happen, and my imagination was stirred by it, so in that sense, although the number of films I saw was small, they may have had a considerable influence on me.

Kaji:. It is important to have that, and to be able to see what comes next. In addition, the fact that it is not an independent work, but a major work, may be surprisingly important. The fact that everyone in society recognizes it gives me confidence.

Kaji:. I'm sorry, I'm kind of selfish now, but each of you is different from the other. In the short time I've been here, I've gone from meeting you all to understanding some of what you've learned, though I don't understand all of it, and in my mind, the first half is just about over. I don't know if there are people who are reading this, but if there are, I'd like to make it easier to understand for those who may or may not have some idea of what I'm talking about, so I'll go through various stories to make it easier to understand. ......Tell me what you like.

All:(Laughter).

Kaji:. as well as the place of origin , something each one of us likes.

All:(They look into each other's eyes and laugh)

Kuwabara, Fujii:(Pointing at Ono) Well then...

Ohno:If someone said that to me, I would say s%G8Re...

Kaji:What what what?

Ohno:I am a white gal . . a gal. . but lately I've been thinking that maybe I'm a black gal.

Kaji:What's the difference between a white gal and a black gal?

Ohno:The black gals are baked to a golden brown... 2010-ish... and I like that texture...

Kaji:I still hold it as a longing...

Ohno:I'm thinking about what it would be like to actually be with a white gal or a black gal, and I've never really had much friendly contact with them...

Kaji:(Laughter).

Kuwabara:You're too virile...

Kaji:You're not a virgin, are you...?

Ohno:I'm not a virgin (laughs). . and lately I've been thinking that my type is actually different. Until I was 19, when I had my first girlfriend, I had a favorite type in movies , and novels. The first girl I liked was a brave girl named Lila from a novel called "The Adventures of Lila" . I like brave girls, like Milla Jovovich in "The Fifth Element. . I like women who fight. Eventually, Winona Ryder and that lazy girl in "Night on the Planet" became my type, and from there I pursued women like that, but... because of the face I mentioned earlier...

Kaji:(Laughter) . Don't worry, don't worry, it doesn't matter what you look like , someday. I'm doing okay too, so I'll be fine. So you don't have any specific ones at this point?

Ohno:Well, I'm still asking myself whether I can call myself a "gyaru" (gal). I work part-time in Omotesando and walk through a very boutique area, and the people I see are the complete opposite of gals...

Kaji:You mean the clean type?

Ohno:. maybe I like the fact that he doesn't seem to speak much, which is surprising.

Kaji:Sorry , do you have a girlfriend now?

Ohno:She...hasn't talked about it (with everyone)...

Kaji:Okay, okay (laughs). He said he was a gal, but he didn't know anymore.

Ohno:I've never dated a gal. I've always admired them. First thing in the new year, black gals and white gals...

Kaji:No , but it looks like New Year.

Ohno:(To the members) Black gals are for the New Year . They're baked for the New Year. . It's festive, you know.

Kaji:It really is, it really is, it really is. Remember the New Year's Eve stampede in the past? What about Kuwabara-kun?

Kuwabara:I have a girlfriend who lives with me now, and she is right in the middle of my type, too cute and amazing.

Kaji:That's super nice , long time? Go out with me.

Kuwabara:5 or 6 more years .

Kaji:What, you think you've always been cute?

Kuwabara:I'm so surprised. When I see them after a long time, I am surprised at how cute they are! I am so surprised.

Kaji:What is that, like she fell into the type of place she was originally?

Kuwabara:When I entered university, I was surrounded by Tokyo and many beautiful people, and I wondered what I was like. I confessed my feelings to her over the phone and she said yes, but I was at the Imperial Hotel, and the moment she said yes, I lost my nerve and collapsed in the lobby, and the front desk staff rushed to me and worried about me...what was I talking about?

Kaji:. your type. . you've got me right where you want to be.

Kuwabara:. and that my type of person came toward that direction.

Kaji:By her , I was leaning towards her. Who does she look like?

Kuwabara:I don't know if there is anyone similar to me, but I like Moeka Kamihiraishi and Gakki.

Kaji:That's quite extravagant. . Then, if you ask me if I want to watch a movie with Gakki, I'll say no.

Kuwabara:Then I would not choose it.

Kaji:In terms of visual types, like her and those two. Not a gringo . Okay, okay. What about you, Hori?

Fujii:I have a girlfriend I've been dating for a long time too...

Kaji:Nice, nice, nice, it's getting more and more like she's there or not.

Fujii:...I don't think I've thought about types of women for about 5 years. Now when I think about movies, I remember that all the guys in the "wispy" movies I used to watch when I was a car enthusiast...

Ohno:You're a gal.

Kaji:What is wispy?

Ohno:. "Wild Speed.

Kaji:What is that , a gaijin?

Ohno:It's very flirtatious ... a macho guy with muscles who is going to run wild anyway, with a gal in tow.

Fujii:. the car race scene where the starter girl throws her bra down was memorable. . and also Ayu (Ayumi Hamasaki) on YouTube.

Kaji:Ayu was on the screen of the cab when I was coming.

Ohno:I like the nude Ayu jacket the best , it's called "LOVEppears".

Kaji:. the generations are totally different, but I like older people more than I thought. . I guess that's the theme of gals, isn't it? I wonder if it's latent, or if it's just the two of us. What about you, Hori?

Hori:I was thinking about it while listening... I'm not interested in love right now.... . but when I draw pictures, I am sure that I like this kind of face, and I guess that is my type.

Kaji:I'm creating it. But if you look closely... is it Haruka Ayase or not?

Hori:(Laughs) . But there may be people who are similar. I can't explain it in words, but... one thing I can say is that I don't know what kind of person they are. I would say they are Asian, or European, or something.

Kaji:I see... I see.

Hori:I admire the heroine in "Blade Runner" and the heroine in "Ghost in the Shell," both of which have a major female role, because of the way the story unfolds. One is an android, and the other is almost a full-body cyborg, and both are so human that we don't know where they are from or whether they are human or not.

Ohno:That's an amazing view of love (laughs).

Kaji:. Then, perhaps we are now in our own time. . Perhaps there will be people who will not even know if they are human or not.

Hori:If something like that comes up...maybe I'll like it.

Kaji:I see. I see, I see. I'm looking forward to it. It's all connected. I see.

Kaji:You're in 2024. Is there anything you consciously want to do?

Kuwabara:. I simply want to do a live concert. The most recent one is in April. I haven't done it since I was working on the album, so I have a growing desire to perform in front of an audience. As for myself.

Kaji:If you want to, you can do it? You can do it if you want to do it.

Kuwabara:I also want to take good care of it, so I thought we should discuss opportunities or timing with everyone from now on.

Kaji:Where did you do it in April?

Kuwabara:A box called "SPREAD" in Shimokita , and "FORESTLIMIT" in Hatagaya. . not with a band, but in a completely improvised style.

Kaji:Do you have an idea of how you want to do it?

Fujii:I'm waiting for a good offer. . I hope we can do it in a way that we can organize.

Kaji:Where's Ohno-kun?

Ohno:. I have many things I want to do with music, but I also want to live a proper life. I used to make my room messy on purpose, putting up flyers in my room and so on. However, the one time I used my room for a music video, I cleaned it out completely, and my life fell apart. A clean room has been a pain lately. So I want to reset, move out, and create a new cycle. I want to make a strong start.

Kaji:. as well as a fresh start. Oh, I don't mean born in the year, but, hey, no year man? What year next?

Ohno:I'm in the year of the rabbit.

Kuwabara:Next year is the year of the dragon...

Kaji:I don't have a New Year's man this year. So what is it, Fujii?

Fujii:Oh, what was that?

Kaji:2024.

Fujii:I'm graduating and nothing is set in stone , at least until the end of April. I have to think about my current life. Nothing has been decided.

Kaji:Is the wall in front of you a paper? So it's not time to think beyond that? Are you okay today? Thanks for coming.

Fujii:No, no! But I do want to work in music, so I was wondering what I should do about that ... yes (laughs).

Kaji:Wait a minute, I'm sorry , I'm sorry. Are you thinking of selling?

Fujii:. It's difficult, but I want to keep going, so I'm trying to sell.

Kuwabara:It would be nice if more people would simply listen to it.

Fujii:I am not sure that I am completely prepared for this, but I want more people to know about my work, and I also want it to be sustainable as an activity....

Ohno:If I wanted to sell my music, I would have several options, such as joining a label, but I thought about it a lot and decided to release this work independently. The theme for next year is to challenge the limits of independent production.

meI was happy to be able to see how the spread of independent music could spread and what kind of sensations could be seen through my works, and it was a joy to see what kind of work I would get if I debuted in a major label. I feel that there is a kind of connection in the industry. I think it is a valuable time for us to be working hard while being separated from that. The next year may be a challenge for us. I am thinking of making next year a year like this in the long run.

Kaji:Oh, okay. I guess that's a follow-up to what I said earlier.

Hori:I also want to make my own solo album next year, and I have been talking with my roommate, who is also a painter, about making handmade items. Also, I would like to set up my house. I think that if I have a good environment, I can do all kinds of things.

Kaji:Nice one , you stand tall, 2024.

Kaji:(To the staff.) Sorry, how many more minutes do I have to leave?

Staff:If you could, it would only take 3 minutes, or 5 minutes...

Kaji:It's tough because it's four very disparate people, , and the time is what it is. It was super difficult. First of all, Hori, wait a minute ... I had an actress in mind, and I don't know what it was ... sorry, I was in a hurry. . it didn't come up, there's one I really want to recommend.

Kaji:Juliette Lewis is in it , and it's a movie about the future. . because I'm coming down, too. I don't remember what it was myself , I can't get a signal. I can't remember what it was myself, and I can't get a signal. Anybody got a picture?

(4 people look it up on their phones)

Kaji:Yes, yes, this, this, yes! Take this one time. These four are amazing. Fujii-kun, you know, Fujii-kun, your favorite movie was "Gummo," right? Why "Gummo"?

Fujii:Like the feeling that there is no story , but there is drama.

Kaji:Western or Japanese... , which do you prefer, Western or Japanese?

Fujii:Hmmm ... but I like Japanese films.

Kaji:Ok, ok, gammo. ... "No more comic magazines!" A film called "No more comic magazines! It's a film that seems to have a lot of meaning, but doesn't. . I like things that have meaning, but don't. I like things that have a meaning, but don't. I like things that have a meaning, but don't have a meaning. It seems like I'm doing something that has meaning, but it doesn't. That's how I feel at the moment. Then, Kuwabara-kun.

Ohno:It's getting a little fortune-telling (laughs).

Kaji:（Kuwabara-kun... The Cracking Woman. Cassavetes.

Kuwabara:Oh...!

Kaji:You seem content with the life of a woman , so I hope you see what I mean by a broken woman. . a masterpiece from a master independent filmmaker.

All:(Laughter).

Kaji:. Ohno-kun. I feel that Ohno-san was the one who spoke the most, and whether or not he embodied everyone, I feel that he served as a window for us. It's not music, but it's a musical film, in my opinion. Jacques Rogge is a great master, but he is an unusual person, and I thought the film itself was musical.

Ohno:The Tavern Océan is out...

Kaji:I like this movie a lot. The music is my favorite , but the story is musical too. There are no answers. In my mind, it is connected to all music, and in my mind, I want the band to be like Maître Océan, which is a great ideal. I want the film and the music to be improvised and completed within the film. It's interesting.

Ohno:We all want to see it...

Kaji:Maybe I'm kind of giving back to you guys through this, like, thank you for today, you know. Yeah, it's a little bit like that. I'll see you later, thank you so much. I'm sorry it's been so hectic. It was the hardest thing I've ever done! You guys are so smart.