What do you like about waist pouches?
What do you think is attractive about waist pouches?
Matsukawa:ぼくが20歳、21歳ぐらいの時に古着屋で働いてて、アメリカ買い付けに連れて行ってもらったことがあるんですけど、ローズボウルにいる日本人バイヤーの人たちがみんなウエストポーチをつけてるんです。それがめちゃくちゃかっこよかったのを覚えてます。
Akimoto:It is true that many seniors in the vintage clothing stores have waist bags.
Westfield:でも、そうかも。ぼくも頻繁にするようになったのはやっぱ海外出張が多くなってからですね。
It fits all the minimum necessary luggage.
Westfield:When you go abroad, the most important thing is to protect yourself from theft, not to mention fashion. The waist area is convenient because it is highly security-conscious and you don't have to keep your hands full.
Matsukawa:ぼくの場合は忘れ物が多いんで、ここに集約させたいんです。四次元ポケット的な感覚。
Westfield:By the way, how often does So-san put it on?
Matsukawa:I don't know. About eight a week? (Laughs)
Westfield:There are days when I use two in a day. I'm a total heavy-waistporter (laughs).
Matsukawa:It's simply that I forget a lot of things (laughs). But I did indeed remove it on the day of my child's visit.
Westfield:You're embarrassed (laughs).
Matsukawa:That's right. But I knew it would be easy.
Westfield:It is also easy to use when traveling by car. You can just pop it on the passenger seat, and it doesn't take up much space.
How often do you put it on?
Westfield:ぼくは多くて週1ぐらいなんですけど、盛り上がる週と盛り上がらない週があって、春から秋ぐらいにかけてがいちばんの旬ですね。冬は厚手の服が多くなるので、少し頻度が落ちますね。
Matsukawa:It is easy to use as an accent when you are wearing light clothing.
Westfield:Yes, I do. Assuming that you don't wear many Akimoto-san, how many do you have?
Akimoto:ぼくは20個ぐらいじゃないですかね。
Westfield:ぼくより全然持ってますよ！ ぼくでも10個ぐらいなので。
Matsukawa:ぼくも15個ぐらいですね。それでも使わないんですか？
Akimoto:Yes, I have. Most of the things I have never used.
Westfield:What a waste!
Are the functional aspects of the product the main point?
Westfield:そうなんです。これがいちばん言いたかったんですけど、オシャレとかそういうのじゃないんです。やっぱりいちばんは便利さなんですよ。スマホ、カギ、財布、タバコとか、あとぼくは絶対にリップクリームを入れておくんですけど、パンツのポケットに入れておくと、どこだったっけみたいなことがあるじゃないですか、それを1つにまとめられるってのがいいんですよね。
What do you do with your folding umbrella on days when rain is forecast?
Westfield:ぼく、基本的に差さないです。
Matsukawa:ぼくもそうですね。
Akimoto:はい、ぼくも。
I didn't expect that we would have that in common.
Akimoto:I want to be as light as possible.
Westfield:I understand. Except in the case of a downpour, if it is a light rain, I think it is enough to wear "Arc'teryx" and a hood.
Matsukawa:I think the sunshade hat I'm wearing today is also an umbrella (laughs).
That's a Western way of thinking (laughs).
Westfield:そう。だからそういう欧米のスタイルにぼくらは憧れてるんですよ。
I think the premise is that women don't like you. You are not concerned about that...?
Matsukawa:If someone is trying to be popular through fashion, he/she might not want to look at this article too much (laughs).
Westfield:Before talking about the waist pouch, there is the fact that I was not popular in the first place, and when I took off the waist pouch, what do you mean? It's not the first time I've done that (laughs).
Matsukawa:I guess so. I find old men walking around Setagaya wearing polo shirts, mesh caps, and waist pouches attractive, but I don't think they would be considered cool by a guy who wants to be popular.
I agree that there is a difference in the base (laughs). From now on, let's talk about waist pouches without regard to popularity.
